Layers across multiple mixes

[MattMills]

I would like to jump in on this as well. Lets say I have 2 LED walls. One stage right, one stage left. What I would usually do is set mix 1 to take care of the SR wall, Mix 2 to take care of the SL wall, and Mix 3 to cover both walls. I have run into the problem of one of the mixes "stepping" on the other mixes. I usually have to set the mix that is doing that to "Flat - locked to corners", and at that point it will allow the other mixes to be seen. Am I going about this the right way? Its working for me, just thought there might be a better way of doing that.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I thought this will add to the topic. Thanks

[Sandals512]

I would like to jump in on this as well. Lets say I have 2 LED walls. One stage right, one stage left. What I would usually do is set mix 1 to take care of the SR wall, Mix 2 to take care of the SL wall, and Mix 3 to cover both walls. I have run into the problem of one of the mixes "stepping" on the other mixes. I usually have to set the mix that is doing that to "Flat - locked to corners", and at that point it will allow the other mixes to be seen. Am I going about this the right way? Its working for me, just thought there might be a better way of doing that.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I thought this will add to the topic. Thanks

Hey Matt, That's currently How i've always done it as well, for me seems to work the easiest for on the fly changes that way.

I avoid using Mix's 1 and 2 as those are default tied to Screen 1 and 2 IIRC, but it always gives issues so I normally start at mix 3.

[kiwi]

I avoid using Mix's 1 and 2 as those are default tied to Screen 1 and 2 IIRC, but it always gives issues so I normally start at mix 3.

Mix 1 and 2 are tied to screen 1 and 2 if you have them in "full screen mix" mode, but they aren't set to this by default.
Otherwise they function the same as any other mix.

[SourceChild]

For about 5 years now I have been stacking mixes. Imagine the following scenario:

3 screens on a stage

For content:

• Mix 3 is a mix spanning all 3 screens
• Mix 4 is screen 1
• Mix 5 screen 2
• Mix 6 screen 3

For IMAG through phoenix capture:

• Mix 7 is a mix spanning all 3 screens
• Mix 8 is screen 1
• Mix 9 screen 2
• Mix 10 screen 3

Layer Assignments:

• Mix 3 Layers 1-5
• Mix 4 Layers 6-10
• Mix 5 Layers 11-15
• Mix 6 Layers 16-20
• Mix 7 Layers 21-25
• Mix 8 Layers 26,27
• Mix 9 Layers 28,29
• Mix 10 Layers 30,31

In this scenario, the three screens can be any size and any distance between each other including 1 big screen. It's the perfect festival style because a daily workflow is adjusting each mix to each new wall. Then there is practically no reprogramming of palettes.

In all cases, my cue stack had all layers of each mix 4,5,6 pointing to the same stack number from mix three. IE 6,11,16 reference 1, 7,12,17 reference layer 2 etc. Then all it takes is bump buttons and dimmer effects to create dynamics.

This is all programmed from a lighting desk. If you notice I did not use Mix Layer Assigns as it would just over complicate. Actually this is a bit of a lie because I would mix layer assign to group IMAG layers on to mix 7 when I needed more than 2 full screen effects. However, this was only for specific needs.

This is exactly how I programmed GnR six months ago and the show is bullet proof no matter what operator comes on after me because I kept it simple and intuitive.

[Trench117]

For about 5 years now I have been stacking mixes.

I would like to do this in my current setup as well. But I have 5 screens onstage. Three of which are on Cat 1 and the other two on Cat 2. I dont think there is a way to get a mix to span all 5, I guess I would have to have 1 mix span the first three screens and a second mix span the last two screens. Then somehow use offsets to make that look right?

Thanks for all the comments.

[5th Element]

I use a setup that is similar since I have noticed when using offsets, if you do things like Z rotation across borders you run into problems. I like the idea of having mix 3 in as a flood all mix window but I have noticed the same thing Matt said. Mix 3 in this case would have to be flat locked to corners, not flat locked aspect ratio in order to be transparent. Is there a specific reason for this? I have always wondered.

[kiwi]

If I remember correctly the Flat constant aspect ratio mix type works slightly differently to the other mix types in that it doesn't go via a secondary graphics buffer (I think that's correct)
Hence you can't do some stuff with it that you can do with the other mix types.

[kiwi]

I would like to jump in on this as well. Lets say I have 2 LED walls. One stage right, one stage left. What I would usually do is set mix 1 to take care of the SR wall, Mix 2 to take care of the SL wall, and Mix 3 to cover both walls. I have run into the problem of one of the mixes "stepping" on the other mixes. I usually have to set the mix that is doing that to "Flat - locked to corners", and at that point it will allow the other mixes to be seen. Am I going about this the right way? Its working for me, just thought there might be a better way of doing that.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I thought this will add to the topic. Thanks

Matt, do you have screen shots of your mix set up?