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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonrudolph View Post
    ...Most of the problem comes from when...you need to decrease the intensity of the image on the output...and the top layer starts to become transparent and shows the layer behind it...
    A Trick for this I have posted in another thread is to take your top layer and decrease the RGB simultaneously to darken the layer, the same way you would when you use colorFX 1 and 2 to decrease the brighness of each fx.

    Conversely, you can also have another layer on top of the stack with Lib 000 and file 001 (which is black) and by fading that layer up, it darkens the mix.

    Granted this isn't what you are talking about, but a fix for the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SourceChild View Post
    A Trick for this I have posted in another thread is to take your top layer and decrease the RGB simultaneously to darken the layer, the same way you would when you use colorFX 1 and 2 to decrease the brighness of each fx.

    Conversely, you can also have another layer on top of the stack with Lib 000 and file 001 (which is black) and by fading that layer up, it darkens the mix.

    Granted this isn't what you are talking about, but a fix for the issue.
    Yes, there are ways to fix this when you can program it ahead of time, but my biggest problem is that I need to be able to adjust this on the fly, usually by creating a group master/inhibitive to ride levels on the fly. It changes based on the content, the camera shot, the way cameras were shaded that day, etc. It is not something that can always bee foreseen as well, and that is where the problem normally shows up. Also, there are times when I am using the color fx (actually, I normally end up using color controls in every cue, whether it be an HSC mode to adjust for the particular display devices to match on camera, or just changing a color) so it's normally not an option for me to use the color parameters.

    On other servers, its not as big of an issue, as there are dedicated Sat/Contrast controls or you have multiple effects on each layer, but in catalyst, you only have one color effect, which is controlled by the RGB parameters, so it is a much bigger problem for me with Catalyst.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by jasonrudolph View Post
    ...in catalyst, you only have one color effect, which is controlled by the RGB parameters, so it is a much bigger problem for me with Catalyst.
    yep...which is why it would be nice to also have a Colour FX and Visual FX at the MIX level as well. (See my earlier MIX FIXTURE profile suggestions posted earlier).
    Best Regards,
    - Marty

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonrudolph View Post
    On other servers, its not as big of an issue, as there are dedicated Sat/Contrast controls or you have multiple effects on each layer, but in catalyst, you only have one color effect, which is controlled by the RGB parameters, so it is a much bigger problem for me with Catalyst.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Postma View Post
    yep...which is why it would be nice to also have a Colour FX and Visual FX at the MIX level as well. (See my earlier MIX FIXTURE profile suggestions posted earlier).
    Marty, I agree with you. Jason, you also. Of course my comments earlier in the post where to have independent FX fixtures within Catalyst that can be assigned either to a Mix or a Layer allowing for stacking.

    Jason, I feel ya on adjusting colors in almost every cue. I deal with that quite a bit. It's been especially tough since one of my clients realized that with an LFG4, catalyst is sort of like a switcher. (I don't even want to begin telling you what kind of pain in the ass it is to run a rig of lights w video cues as well as using my desk to "switch" video inputs dynamically).

    Just a note though, my suggestion is simply this. Take the top layer in the stack and make it the black 001 file and throw it on an intensity fader and you have an instant dynamic gain control. (Yes at the loss of a layer to do it).
    SourceChild
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    Not a terrible workaround for now.

    Also an interesting idea on the FX assign. There are several 3-D modelling programs that have this "FX-patching" ability already, so I would think that it shouldn't be a problem legally.

    I'd love to hear from Richard on the idea of an overall Mix Fixture...maybe time for e-mail
    Last edited by Marty Postma; 12-01-2008 at 02:32 PM.
    Best Regards,
    - Marty

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