Need a Little Help

[Mr_P]

Matt

Artnet addressing:

An artnet 'Subnet' contains 16 DMX universes.
(Dont confuse 'Artnet Subnet' with the networking term 'subnet')

Artnet Subnet 0 = 16 DMX universes (512 channels)
The first universe is 0, the last is 15 (or F in hex) = total 16
The first DMX universe would be Subnet 0, universe 0
the next: Subnet 0, universe 1 etc

[0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F] HEX = 16 DMX universes
[0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,,10,11,12,13,14,15] Decimal = 16 DMX universes

the next subnet is 1, it also has 16 DMX universes.
Some consoles will continue the numbering sequentially
ie 16,17,18...
this is acually subnet 1, universe 0 s1,u1 s1,u2 ... etc

Catalyst numbers the Artnet universes starting at 0 and keeps going...
in the PRO version there are 10 DMX universe outputs which can be patched to ANY Artnet universe output. (2nd tab - DMX/Artnet HUD)

If you are using universe 5-8 in catalyst for output, you should configure your Node6 or NSP to output these universes (ie Subnet 0, universe 5-8)

If in doubt about universes - check out the 3rd tab in the DMX/Artnet HUD.
Click on the relevant Artnet universe - Any level changes will highlight in blue.

Suggest you work 1 universe at a time to help identify.

Patching per truss sounds sensible. Obviously your PixelMad patch should match this.

I plan on using the grand MA to control the Stage Bars as well as use PixelMad to control them for some effects.

Not sure how you are thinking about using the Desk AND PixelMad to control the StageBars? Artnet does an HTP merge if 2 controllers are patched to the same universe. Not sure if this will work in your scenario. You could use DMX swtching if the Node 6 supports it (Luminex can do this) - else you may have to choose either PixelMad OR the MADesk for control of the fixtures.

How do you have everything connected? what are you using the NSP for - im not sure you will need it if using the Node6 for DMX output from PixelMad...

Do get back to me if you have any further queries


Simon

[MattMills]

Matt
Not sure how you are thinking about using the Desk AND PixelMad to control the StageBars? Artnet does an HTP merge if 2 controllers are patched to the same universe.

I am adding to an existing show that already has the Stage Bar programmed. Not much though, just solid colors, so it wouldnt be a loss if I had to re do it. The Node 6 has an option per port to configure the output to be LTP Merge, I assumed this would work.

[Mr_P]

I am adding to an existing show that already has the Stage Bar programmed. Not much though, just solid colors, so it wouldnt be a loss if I had to re do it. The Node 6 has an option per port to configure the output to be LTP Merge, I assumed this would work.

Not used the ELC Node6 myself - but it sounds like that might work.
The Luminex box has a function to be able to switch between 2 controllers via a single DMX chanel trigger - which is how I've done it in the past.

My only thought is that an LTP merge may not be ideal if the 'other' controller changes - a switch function might be more reliable...

However, If you only have static colours programmed on the MA - it might be easier just to re-program those cues using catalyst/pixelmad as the controller (very easy) and have the stage bars permanently connected to catalyst - thus avoiding any merging or switching scenarios.

Simon

[MattMills]

Thanks Simon. I am going to have to remove the existing Stagebar programming anyways, I am running them in a different channel mode this go around.

The reason I want to use them from both the Console and from the Catalyst is because I have a few effects that I have in mind that I can knock out real quick with the effects engine.

Thanks to everyone for the help, I think I have everything configured how I need it. Now I just have to get the rig in front of me and go at it. Unfortunately that doesnt happen for another 3 weeks.

[samsc]

it seems to indicate here elc node 6 does htp merge:

http://www.elclighting.com/web/index...d=122&Itemid=4

Features:
Remote programming and monitoring
DMX input options like Normal and Backup
DMX output options like:
- Normal
- Merging in HTP / LTP or custom
- Priority merging
- Merging with softpatch

not used or tested myself

Thanks Simon. I am going to have to remove the existing Stagebar programming anyways, I am running them in a different channel mode this go around.

The reason I want to use them from both the Console and from the Catalyst is because I have a few effects that I have in mind that I can knock out real quick with the effects engine.

Thanks to everyone for the help, I think I have everything configured how I need it. Now I just have to get the rig in front of me and go at it. Unfortunately that doesnt happen for another 3 weeks.

[David Monguet]

I'm using ELC node8 and you can do HTP merge or LTP merge in each output, same as Luminex.

[samsc]

I am adding to an existing show that already has the Stage Bar programmed. Not much though, just solid colors, so it wouldnt be a loss if I had to re do it. The Node 6 has an option per port to configure the output to be LTP Merge, I assumed this would work.

you need an htp merge- to control from 2 different devices-
you will have to check whether your box will do an HTP merge-

artnet is just a ethernet protocol its doesnt do any merging - it depends on the interface box

LTP merging wont work - as both devices are going to be sending information at the same time-