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    HD Content

    I am interesting in set up my system to run a HD content 1920 X 1080 resolution files... I am currently using v4, and i have the following experience,.... I can run about 4 to 6 videos in DV codec , 720 X 480 simultaniusly. I can Run about 3 to 4 videos in PhotoJpeg codec. I can run 1 HD video in PhotoJpeg 1920 X 1080,... i tryied to compress the video using DV, but the quality is very very bad.

    WHAT Codec do you guys belive is the best to make a HD content ?

    Please share any infos you may have...

    Thanks

    Gian
    Gian
    Ibeam SP
    SP, Brasil

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Gian
    I am interesting in set up my system to run a HD content 1920 X 1080 resolution files... I am currently using v4, and i have the following experience,.... I can run about 4 to 6 videos in DV codec , 720 X 480 simultaniusly. I can Run about 3 to 4 videos in PhotoJpeg codec. I can run 1 HD video in PhotoJpeg 1920 X 1080,... i tryied to compress the video using DV, but the quality is very very bad.

    WHAT Codec do you guys belive is the best to make a HD content ?

    Please share any infos you may have...

    Thanks

    Gian
    dv codec only works at 720x576 or 720x480 - it does not scale - it cannot be rendered at any other resolution.

    for 1920x1080 you have to use photojpeg around 50%. nothing else works

    what hard disc is in your computer? - this also matters.

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    I have a Firewire 800 setup 4 drives in RAID 0.

    What about H264, I saw some HD movies using this particular CODEC.

    Thanks

    Gian
    Gian
    Ibeam SP
    SP, Brasil

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    h264 like mpeg2 is rubbish for use in catalyst.

    it uses interframe compression.

    you cant access each frame without getting a dreadful performance hit - as you need to decode several frames to get one.

    looping, changing in and out points. fast random access to individual frames - are all impossible - all things that are essential on a 'media server'.

    some media servers use mpeg2 - but they have to convert the mpeg2 to a special format - with all i-frames...

    ---

    i have tested all this stuff thoroughly.

    photojpeg 50% is the thing that works - and photojpeg is a really good codec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsc

    i have tested all this stuff thoroughly.

    photojpeg 50% is the thing that works - and photojpeg is a really good codec.
    Beacon DigiGobos® will make the folder for Catalyst in 50% PhotoJPEG with
    the coming HD series, I tested also and ended up with the same result as R!
    Peppe Tannemyr
    Beacon DigiGobos®
    www.digigobos.com / www.gobogroup.com

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Gian
    I have a Firewire 800 setup 4 drives in RAID 0.

    What about H264, I saw some HD movies using this particular CODEC.

    Thanks

    Gian
    i doubt whether a four drive firewire raid is any faster than a single scsi disc.
    but i havent tested your raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peppe
    Beacon DigiGobos® will make the folder for Catalyst in 50% PhotoJPEG with
    the coming HD series, I tested also and ended up with the same result as R!
    i have also done tests between photojpeg 30% and photojpeg 100%.
    and there is a very significant performace hit when you go over 60% - and almost no change in the image

    photojpeg performance is very sensitive to compression 'quality'.

    nothing to do with catalyst - its the performance of quicktime.

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    It's worth remembering that at the 100% quality setting Photo-Jpeg has 4:4:4 colour sampling in RGB 8 bit. At this level, it's very hard going on the processor to decode multiple streams of this... ;-) However, it is a fantastic and very efficient offline storage method. Unless you like storing your content in Animation Codec (which eats hard drive space), then it's a good bet.

    Photo-Jpeg uses DCT intraframe compression technology, and therefore does not suffer from the problems that interframe compression based codecs (H264, Sorenson, Mpeg-2 etc) do.

    Hugh
    Altered State Ltd

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    photojpeg uses 4:4:4 sampling at every compression rate.

    what dct algorithms do is throw away higher frequency information -

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_cosine_transform

    the sampling will be quite obscure and irrelevant to most peoples understanding.

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