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    Entec Datagate

    http://www.enttec.com/datagate.php

    8 universes of dmx.
    anyone used these yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsc
    http://www.enttec.com/datagate.php

    8 universes of dmx.
    anyone used these yet?
    No but I would like to know if you think that the Enttec single univers openusb or open usb pro would be compatible with the Artnet framework you developed for OSX? They are very inexpensive and readily available in the US.

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    they have a horrible configuration menu system - one that you want to shoot yourself in the head after trying to configure.
    and the web configuration is incomplete...you have to use the menus...
    and their manual is not up to date with what they do.

    they claim to not do all 8 outputs as artnet - but they do.
    because we had them working in argentina.

    seem to work.
    had 6 of them driving 50 universes on a tv show.

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    I use Enttecs with Pixeldrive a lot. My overall impression is not very good, but most probably it's the Pixeldrive to blame, not the Enttecs. Personally I am quite happy with them. When I use them with pixeldrive I can drive 8 DMX lines, with Pixelmad or Catalyst - only 4. Is it possible to change this?? For quite a time I have had the intention of buying Pixelmad or more lines for Catalyst (upg), but this is the reason I didn't yet.

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    they seemed to work with 8 output artnet universes in buenos aires.
    the manual said they didnt work like this--- but they did,
    i saw it with my own eyes.

    i accessed them directly using non-broadcast artnet - artnet data sent to each device.
    we had 48 output universes - so we needed to do this.
    i didnt have to set them up - gustavo did their settings...

    maybe they need a firmware update of some kind?

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    enttec

    datagates are working good with pixelmad, Richard made pixelmad work with they, enttec support service is not good , in fact they says that is not possible use 8 ports at the same time with artnet , Richard did it possible in pixelmad.

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    improvement on this front

    Quote Originally Posted by samsc View Post
    they have a horrible configuration menu system - one that you want to shoot yourself in the head after trying to configure.
    and the web configuration is incomplete...you have to use the menus...
    and their manual is not up to date with what they do.

    they claim to not do all 8 outputs as artnet - but they do.
    because we had them working in argentina.

    seem to work.
    had 6 of them driving 50 universes on a tv show.
    You're right, the old way of configuring them by menu buttons on the face plate was tedious and confusing. We have a free utility now that does it very well now, however. It's easy to see what you have, and change what you need to, all on one screen. The Node Management Utility makes this former chore a breeze, and lets you save and load profiles to disk, too.

    We'll work on that manual to reflect this. The datasheets on the Enttec Website already do. More about the art-net 8 streams issue in a later post.

    Jeremy Kumin
    Enttec US Sales and Marketing Manager

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    8 universes or 4?

    There has been some back and forth in this thread about how many Art-Net universes an Enttec Datagate could chug if a Datagate could chug ether. Well, something like that.

    I'm not an engineer, so let me say that I'm only half scratching the surface of the problem with my knowledge of the topic, but here's what I've been told. There seem to be two issues here. One is what does the specification say, and the other is what can you in reality do.

    Art-Net's spec says 4 out and 4 in is the max per node. Enttec supports that. Some people have made applications where they use a non-standard version of Art-Net which ignores that spec, and it works. We don't want to say "sure, it's easy, call it 8 whenever you like" because that simply won't be reliably true across the board. That being understood, there are a lot of times when it's been known to work, but we'd rather be conservative in our claims and sometimes give people a bonus gift than claim miracles that only happen for some customers.

    Does this clear things up a little for anyone?

    Jeremy Kumin
    Enttec US Sales and Marketing Manager

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkumin View Post
    Art-Net's spec says 4 out and 4 in is the max per node. Enttec supports that. Some people have made applications where they use a non-standard version of Art-Net which ignores that spec, and it works.
    jeremy - thats a software protocol spec- but for a manufacturer-

    all you have to do is have two ip addresses for one box- its called multihoming in tcpip language - or even more than 2 - and you can support as many universes - from a single physical box - as you want without doing anything none standard -

    this is what i believe other manufacturers such as luminex do.

    Richard

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