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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_P
    you will have to select 'slow disks' to get arround issues of catalyst crashing. (an open GL bug - i've been told....)
    you dont want to use 'slow disc' mode in 3.31 it kills performance. ( and in 3.3 )
    it was a driver sync bug when a new movie loaded. related to other changes around 10.3.5

    it is fixed in 3.31

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_P
    As for a stable platform to run v3.31 - in theory - the answer is 10.3.9 with all relevant updates and up to date ATI drivers etc. However, I havent had a chance to fully test this yet.... So I'll be sticking to 10.3.3 + V3.3 G21 until I can prove that v3.31 is show worthy and stable on 10.3.9. At the moment we're staying away from tiger...
    it gets to be show worthy by people using it and reporting problems....apart from that there is no magic wand i can wave.

    having to deal with the mulititude of endless hardware and software changes from apple the last year has been just about impossible.

    this is an open platform - not fixed like a lighting console.
    end users can install their own software and hardware.

    there is no way that any more than a small number of configurations can ever be tested.

  3. #13
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    I have my machines set exactly as specified here with vertical sync set to on.

    I have experimented with turning it off but of course everything turns to crap

    Cheers

    Toby

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    The sooner a 'BASE' configuration is quoted - the better...

    It IS possible to have a basic configuration to use as a base for testing and development. There are FEW options involved when you look at the HW/SW spec

    Agreed - there are the 'newer' and 'older' 2G G5's the latter will run 10.0.3, the former will not (10.3.9) Heres a spec most people dont deviate from:

    Dual 2G Mac
    OS 10.3.3 (or 10.3.9)
    512MB Ram
    SATA System HD
    SCSI Content Drive
    ATTO SCSI Controller
    ATI 9800 SE 256MB
    USB card (with internal port for dongle)
    Miglia Alchemy Capture Card - or Blackmagic SDI capture Card
    optional Keyspan USB adaptor

    Software: Nothing other than the OS loaded + updates + catalyst.
    ATI drivers + control panel
    Atto dirvers
    Keyspan drivers
    Black magic or alchemy drivers
    re-namer program (Renamer4Mac)
    (VNC software - tech only - OSXvnc + Chicken of the VNC)


    Its a pretty simple spec.
    Hire companies dont send out machines with other software on..... (what the users put on is down to them - hence why they get wiped when returned.)

    Most designers use their own Macs / laptops for editing and content creation - so dont tend to install any software on the servers - (apart from OSXvnc for network access, only when needed)

    SO - hardware spec is pretty simple, software spec is simple... Its a basic spec that everyone uses... why not use it as a minimum spec and benchmark for testing?

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by tharding
    I have my machines set exactly as specified here with vertical sync set to on.

    I have experimented with turning it off but of course everything turns to crap

    Cheers

    Toby
    try 10.4.4 on a clean drive.

    dont install any ati extensions, or control panels.

    one of the problems related to this went away around 10.4.3.

    ...

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_P
    The sooner a 'BASE' configuration is quoted - the better...
    SO - hardware spec is pretty simple, software spec is simple... Its a basic spec that everyone uses... why not use it as a minimum spec and benchmark for testing?
    in the real world its much much more complex.

    people dont stick to any system, or spec.
    people install all sorts of things in all sorts of combinations.

    I know because when i request system profiles from people - what is returned is a range of setups even from a single gig or the same rental company - ( but often there are cross-hire systems - and they are never the same .)

    there are hundreds and hundreds of these systems out there.
    this stuff has been on sales for 2 years.
    and started out with hardware that was quite different from now.

    i do have a basic benchmark for testing - but its useless for dealing with the range of hardware out there.

    for example : the blackmagic drivers change the whole time ( and have started to affect some performance things ).

    there are different opengl bugs - in different combinations with different graphics cards and different drivers.

    also the new hardware which uses pci-express and is not compatible with 10.3.x introduces a new set of problems.

    ---

    aside from this - there really are a significant number of hardware failures that crop up which confuse the whole thing.
    computers get the crap beaten out of them on the road doing shows.


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    having said all this - there are only a handful of issues that crop up in my software.
    but they are the tricky ones that change when apple changes the os.
    there is some glitching - but it comes and goes - and changes in the os.
    i try to work around them, or find ways - but i cant always guarantee i find everything - which is why i need your cooperation.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_P
    SO - hardware spec is pretty simple, software spec is simple... Its a basic spec that everyone uses... why not use it as a minimum spec and benchmark for testing?
    another thing to watch out for with computers is this:

    You dont ever presume something will work - unless the exact same hardware and software has been used.

    you work backwards.
    you presume it doesnt work unless its been tested to work.

    I have been doing this for far too long to ever make any assumptions that things will work.
    i assume they dont and work forwards.

    and its often really surprising and odd things that break stuff.
    like wierd usb hardware. and wierd drivers.
    and it really surprising when it does work....

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    so far tiger has been pretty stable for me.

    now that 10.4.4 is out, and the tertiary bugs ( 3rd generation - bug fixes of bug fixes ) have been dealt with.

    Catalyst should have worked out of the box on tiger - i dont do anything wierd or unusual - but apple broke something crucial ( they deprecated some opengl stuff ) - and it never got fixed - hence the need for 3.31.

    Also this same bit that got broken on tiger on desktops and real graphics cards - WORKS on the Mac mini - and is the only thing you can use....

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by tharding
    I have my machines set exactly as specified here with vertical sync set to on.
    Toby
    can you tell me more about your system?

    how many screens?

    what size screens? 1024x768?

    30fps?

    can you send me a system profile?

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