no worries Richard, I've also alerted Steve to this issue

totally changing the subject here, but how does the new Colored Square Visual effects work in Catv4? I can see it on my output window with Separate with FX, but on my output set to Mix all layers, I can't see it, so I'm not sure it's enabled or I'm using it right.

thanks!
Vickie


ps. you never have answered my question I posted recently about why there were so many screen resolutions and HZ choices in Catv3.3? I like the catv4 method of setting the playback FPS and having the program automatically match the resolution and frequency.. nice job!