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    Yes, I've seen the DVCpro HD codec. I haven't tested it though because you had said it is too slow. I have seen it being played back in FCPHD with 10 simultaneous layers all with RT fx on including page peel and pans.

    DVCpro50 is much nicer than DV. My camera is only DV though so it won't help the 5-1 compression that comes with DV. A good DVCpro50 camera is the Pana SDX-900 but it starts at $28,000. Looks great though. Maybe someday I'll invest in something like this for now I've been pretty surprised by my little JVC HD10u. The quality is nice and is the only game in town for a while when it comes to HDV or HD under $65000. The frameyness can be bothersome in fast situations but overall it looks great compressed in photojpeg on large format rear projection set to 1024x768.

    Christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by litemover
    Yes, I've seen the DVCpro HD codec. I haven't tested it though because you had said it is too slow. I have seen it being played back in FCPHD with 10 simultaneous layers all with RT fx on including page peel and pans.

    DVCpro50 is much nicer than DV. My camera is only DV though so it won't help the 5-1 compression that comes with DV. A good DVCpro50 camera is the Pana SDX-900 but it starts at $28,000. Looks great though. Maybe someday I'll invest in something like this for now I've been pretty surprised by my little JVC HD10u. The quality is nice and is the only game in town for a while when it comes to HDV or HD under $65000. The frameyness can be bothersome in fast situations but overall it looks great compressed in photojpeg on large format rear projection set to 1024x768.

    Christian
    the dvcProHD took 40ms in my testing to decode a single frame with a single 10k disc drive. try it on your disc system.
    I think there is some cheating going on in your demo....

    Yes dvcpro 50 looks good. its only 2.5:1 compression. pretty close to digibeta. but the price of decks and cameras is a killer.
    I think i can do a couple of layers

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    Quote Originally Posted by litemover
    Yes, I've seen the DVCpro HD codec. I haven't tested it though because you had said it is too slow. I have seen it being played back in FCPHD with 10 simultaneous layers all with RT fx on including page peel and pans.
    Christian
    10 layers of HD is impossible - just from a bandwidth point of view.
    The computer subsystems get saturated way before this.
    even at 720p this is totally impossible.

    even pushing pixels around:
    1280x780x30fpsx10 layers is 276,000,000 pixels/second...

    in a dual 2ghz processor you get say at most 2,000,000,000 instruction/second.

    thats less than 10 instructions per pixel. impossible to do any compositing.

    There is not sufficient memory bandwidth, agp bandwidth or computer hp to do this...
    Someone is telling lies, or pulling sleight of hand tricks.

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    It's 4 layers of high quality HD or 10 layers of med quality HD all in the DVCpro HD codec. It was their biggest presentation done on a huge stage right in front of the Avid booth and 130,000 people throught the course of the convention.

    They also plopped a TCR right on the sequence and it was playing back at full speed.

    Don't think they would be pulling any funny business in front of the world and their competitors to see.

    It was running off an Xserve Raid 3.5terrabye storage unit. I'm sure you can find a clip of the demo online somewhere.

    Christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by litemover
    It's 4 layers of high quality HD or 10 layers of med quality HD all in the DVCpro HD codec. It was their biggest presentation done on a huge stage right in front of the Avid booth and 130,000 people throught the course of the convention.

    They also plopped a TCR right on the sequence and it was playing back at full speed.

    Don't think they would be pulling any funny business in front of the world and their competitors to see.

    It was running off an Xserve Raid 3.5terrabye storage unit. I'm sure you can find a clip of the demo online somewhere.

    Christian
    maybe the xserve raid works quite well. then.
    thats the only way.

    normal discs in any kindof configuration dont work well enough to do anything like this

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