OS X Lion 10.7

[SourceChild]

It's new, it's nice, it's got bells and whistles....

It just doesn't play nice with Catalyst.

Not at all

[NevBull]

are you surprised??????

Nev.

[ajmaudio]

what did they break now?

[gazzer82]

Pretty much everything, don't go near it with a barge pole for the time being, Catalyst won't even launch in it's current form!

Let's hope it's a little while before they do another Mac Pro hardware refresh and we are all screwed again like the whole ATI driver debacle!

[samsc]

There isnt a SINGLE useful feature in Lion to pro users-

nothing-



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they seem to be trying to turn the OS into iOS-

and totally dumping people who dont do this-

Final Cut PRO X- indicates the extent of the problems

its a total abomination-

which doesnt even pay lip service to existing workflows-

they have dumped all the pro drivers and pro quicktime support stuff thats been around for 10-15 years

[SourceChild]

I've been installing beta versions and testing capabilities.

In short, it goes like this.

Apple makes Leopard. Leopard is made with all sorts of new feature (many inside that people are unaware of). It is build with an architecture derived of large and clunky but solid structured code (Carbon). The parts of the system that are new are solidified an further tested.

Once Leopard is wide spread and tested, they completely re-write the structured code and replace the large clunky pieces with refined streamlined objects that can further be enhanced and extended in the future.

This new Object oriented codebase is called Snow-Leopard and although is very similar on the surface, is radically thinner and faster on the inside.

At this point Snow Leopard is the epitome of where OS X is developed to from an "under the hood" perspective. This will ultimately be the code base used for a long time.

Then Lion comes along... Truth be known, Lion is simple a package of enhancements which install atop Snow Leopard. In fact, you cannot even install Lion from scratch but must install Snow Leopard as a foundation first.

Then the enhancement "Lion" packaged is deployed on top.

In the world of UNIX, Lion is paper thin and nothing but fluff. However, in the world of quick apps and development, Lion opens doors for a huge amount of extensibility within and beyond Apple's dev teams.

Unfortunately though, all those enhancements do not increase the performance of the overall system, especially in areas that simply require raw processing such as with Catalyst.

[Mr_P]

... theres just more stuff to turn off in lion

(cats have 9 lives...)

[RobbJibson]

Lion came out! At least here in the US.
I'm traveling in Asia at the moment but has anyone tried it with the release version?
Anything to look out for?

I'm not really wanting all the fancy garble that it promises, but I would like to see the updates to a few apps and the versioning / backups that is supplies system wide. I don't think my drawing apps are up to speed on it yet so I don't want to click "yes" on the D/L that came in overnight....

And I'm using my lappy to send content on all these fly shows. So I don't want to jeopardize that. But I'd sure like to know!

The machines I use back home are still on 10.5 and I guess should stay that way...

Robb

[samsc]

i suggest everyone watches the bleeding from a distance-

as people discover more things are broken/deprecated than are added or fixed....

rosetta was a key component in a lot of hidden stuff-
stuff that hadnt been updated for a while - 3rd party things-

[RobbJibson]

copy that. I will prolly update my laptop sooner-ish, once I get this current tour off and running and no drawings / renderings have to be done for a bit.
I've always got the office machines / road machines etc.
I will try and post findings here, but it won't be till after 8/1 -ish...

Robb