Color Mixing inverts along with image inversion

[litemover]

alpha channels are total performance hog.

They have to be uncompressed to work properly.

You need to play around with the animation codec.
When we did the RMA's i rendered the RMA - on screen logo using the animation codec.

Live to air scares me....

This is a good point Richard, performance must be able to keep up with things like uncompressed alpha channels. This is why I am trying to find the fastest method of storage available for uncompressed.

In the TV world, all of the video servers have this capability and it is very difficult to compete with them or even coexist with them if you don't have this ability with Catalyst. Catalyst is heaps more flexible than most of them but this one feature would give those who program Catalyst in the everyday TV world to be able to matte a logo or lower 3rd layer on another piece the proper way. Trans black or White has been a godsend but with pieces that have black or white in them...

What ends up happening is that the producers have to pay the editors or AE people to deal with this problem and the costs associated with it make it less appealing.

This is just one of those things that is a hinderance in the TV world because directors and producers would like to have the flexibility to matte things like sponsor logos and band names on whatever content one happens to be playing at the time. Does anyone else ever get this request or just me? I can see that this wouldn't be an issue in the touring or theater world as there is slightly more time to put together a premultiplied or already matted piece against a planned layer.

Christian

[samsc]

in a theatre they can pre-plan everything.

This isnt designed as an 'online' type compositing tool - something like Harry or flame or henry.
Broadcast people are used to those things.

And even these things didnt work fully in real-time last time i checked.

Im just trying to do simple compositing and dissolving. that has to work in real-time.

I cant do chroma keying either - properly - because those broadcast people have devised some kick ass keyers - that i cant possibly compete with.
There is no way i can make it idiot proof - keying is really problematic. and there are alsorts of tools available in the non-real- time world to make this acceptable.

[litemover]

This works fully in Profile and the EVS system in real time. I wouldn't need to do this or ask for this if it didn't. When editors deliver key packages, this is how they deliver them to the Profile crew.

Because I am unable to do this, it causes both confusion and bewilderment on their behalf. I'm trying to make it simple for them so that they don't go back to the producer and say "why are we using Catalyst when it can't even key how we usually deliver it, we should just use Profile, blah blah blah".

Profile operators aren't the only ones who are scared of Catalyst, the editors and content creators are too. It's a very difficult political situation to be in. Catalyst will need to be able to keep up with the most fundamental and rudimentary features such as this in order to succeed in the television world.

Many productions are prohibited from using video because of the cost of Profile. Catalsyt comes in at the right price but because of features like this not being implemented, it makes it neccesary to have a reduced Profile system and crew which defeats the cost to savings ratio.

I'm not asking for chroma key, the Globecaster does this real time and live rather well for 40 grand.

Christian

[samsc]

keying is a tough problem that needs to be done right.

maybe when i have a spare week or two, ill have another look at the issues,