Converting to HD-SDI

[ajmaudio]

The driver listed on AS page is catalyst specific.. suspect it is the same but I will try it. Are you guys installing the driver or card first?? And my OS is the current leopard release, NOT snow leopard. Anyone tried it in Snow? I left snow alone cuzz it seemed less stable in testing when using fx, but if its better for this I may give it another go. SO ya... which first the card or the driver?

[samsc]

what refresh rate are your screens?
and your video input?
and catalyst frame rate?


there arent any driver issues with phoenix - there is no quicktime driver-
any issues with phoenix installation need to be referred directly to active silicon- there arent any software/driver issues-

Simon's method is best. I have done this method dozens of times.

Its time consuming but it's the best and only way to resolve issues with capture cards. (Also the same method for the Phoenix Cards with the exception of the driver file.)

I have still seen this happen regardless of any troubleshooting. I am dealing with this very issue in fact in a nightclub. Fortunately I am the only one who notices but it still drives me nuts.

My speculation is electrical noise and subtle phasing problems which cause the digitizer to perceive a drop. I can't confirm this but nothing else makes much sense.

[ajmaudio]

Thanks for your input Richard... glad to see you getting in on this one.

the source is NTSC
catalyst is set at 30fps
Refresh rate is 60.02 I think (1024x768) for the output to led controllers

Based your comments it would be better to lock the playback to some division of the refresh rate I assume?

[samsc]

source ntsc. so somewhere in the region of 29.97Hz ( though not necessarily accurate )

is this a pro camera or an cheap camera setup?

which LED product is/was it?

dmx or dvi?

suggest as a potential first step you try setting frame rate to screen div 2 and see whether it gets better or worse

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its related to the problem of how to play back the 23.98 movie we had before-
its the same kindof deal-

NTSC video camera signals dont fit neatly into dvi/vga/LED controller refresh rates.

Thanks for your input Richard... glad to see you getting in on this one.

the source is NTSC
catalyst is set at 30fps
Refresh rate is 60.02 I think (1024x768) for the output to led controllers

Based your comments it would be better to lock the playback to some division of the refresh rate I assume?

[samsc]

the problem as described is not a driver problem -

but a frame rate thing- i await more information

1. depends on the frame rate of the video input -
2. the frame rate of the display -
3. and the playback rate set in catalyst application-

you see if the person is using NTSC which may or may not be close to 29.97 Hz - and their screen is 1024x768 which is 60.02Hz- it doesn't evenly divide- into the screen refresh - and every minute or so - something has to give ...


the video input as described is working correctly-

can you confirm the specification of your MacPro and its hardware version. (Model Identifier). Can you create a system profilie and post it here. (see catalyst menu)

I've sucessfully run 3x LFG4 cards with 12 inputs connected to cameras with no problems - that was on a 2007 3G 4core MacPro

What other hardware do you have installed? Are you running remote desktop or anything similar at the same time as Catalyst? What HardDrives and Graphics cards do you have?

Can you confirm the version of LFG4 driver you are using - and MacOS version.

Try un-installing the driver (see below) and both cards.
Reset the system PRAM (apple+option+P+R) at re-boot
(check your settings afterwards)
Shutdown - and install only 1 card and install the driver below (if Leopard)
test with a blank - new catalyst show - to see what happens.
connect video inputs 1 by 1
if all ok - shutdown - install the 2nd card - and repeat tests

Correct driver for Leopard is: 'LFG Direct Driver 2.0.Leopard.dmg'
LFG Driver:
http://homepage.mac.com/simonpugsley....0.Leopard.dmg

from Active Silicon Documentation:
Uninstalling the Video Driver (VDIG)
You will need to know the root/Administrator password to perform a driver uninstall.
1. Open up a terminal window from a 'Finder' window:
Run '/Applications/Utilities/Terminal'.
2. Type the following commands exactly as shown:
sudo rm -rf /Library/QuickTime/lfgvdigx.component
sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/cdapci.kext
sudo rm -rf "/Library/Documentation/Active Silicon"
exit
3. Then close the terminal window, shutdown and restart the computer.


Do get back to me with the information requested - and let me know if you are still having issues.

Regards

Simon

[Mr_P]

Remove the driver you installed from the Active Silicon website (follow instructions above) - re-boot

Install the driver from the link on my website - this driver is written by Richard for Catalyst and differs from the 'standard' driver available from Active Silicon

Let me know if this solves the issue

Simon

[samsc]

there is no difference between drivers ( mine or AS )-

the only difference is that the active silicon dmg installs a quicktime driver for use with other quicktime applications-

the quicktime driver does not have good low latency performance- and should not be used- though it does work in catalyst.

those system commands you detailed - uninstall the quicktime driver-

Remove the driver you installed from the Active Silicon website (follow instructions above) - re-boot

Install the driver from the link on my website - this driver is written by Richard for Catalyst and differs from the 'standard' driver available from Active Silicon

Let me know if this solves the issue

Simon

[Mr_P]

It doesn't matter...
On new builds I've installed card first
On existing servers - the drivers are usually pre-loaded (from last time)

However - in your case - Id remove the card and follow instructions to remove driver
- reboot
- reset PRAM (allow to boot)
- shtdown
- re-install card
- boot up
- instal drivers
- reboot
- start NEW blank catalyst show
- enable LFG in preferences
(hopefully should work....)

The file is sent a link to above DEFINITELY works - its the one I use (almost) everyday!

Simon

[rosswill]

I'll add my support for the TV-One products. I own 2355A's and 7200's. I like the fact you get duel channel conversion in a 1U space and use them almost daily. Worth noting the 7200 only supports DVI up to 1280x1024/60 whereas the 2355A supports 1920x1200. in recent firmware the EDID has improved. The only downside for me is lack of DVI loop through for local monitoring, which forces me to include DVI distro in my setup. The plus side however, is that I can output simultaneous DVI, SDI/HDSDI, and CV from Catalyst with ease as well as up/down/cross converting other broadcast feeds to switch to my output device. I think from memory there are 11 inputs on the 7200 and 5 on the 2355A.

Regards

Ross