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    the 3 different types of DVI doesnt make things easy. DVI-A DVI-D DVI-I
    http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html

    5 wire bnc doesnt do EDID-

    so it will default to standard resolutions. and might cause troubles.

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    dvi/vga enabling - this happens in the hardware - its not related to 'quartz'.


    Quote Originally Posted by SourceChild View Post
    One of the things I have been researching is DVI to 5-Wire BNC connectors. Since obviously we all have a more common tendency to drive our projectors with 5-Wire BNC I figured the would be one less connection in the path to troubleshoot.

    What I found is something from Gefen which has a Male DVI which 'Y's out to 5 BNC plugs and a Female DVI plug. I didn't know why they did this. It didn't make sense to me. The explained it would allow a user to attach a DVI screen and run a 5-wire signal simultaneously.

    Surprising what I found!
    Apparently many video cards can drive DVI and VGA simultaneously through the same port. In this case, a user can attach one of these DVI BNC Y-adaptors and view an analog and digital signal simultaneously on two different output devices.

    (Basically, I can setup my racks to output DVI and BNC simultaneously without needing a converter.)

    I have been researching the video cards in MACs. They perform this function. I am reading into the Quartz specs to see how this is controlled and if it produces signal overhead. What I am thinking is that perhaps a command key can be entered by a user into the terminal which will disable either the DVI or the VGA.
    (~"PLEASE NOTE THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS UNLESS YOU KNOW HOW TO HACK IN UNIX"~)

    The hope in this discovery is to determine if some of the overhead issues can be alleviated by using this fix. I will report further as I find out.

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    Did some looking. The problem is that when render data is sent to the GPU, the GPU will only render one display space. Since the graphics card might see an analog and a digital device at the same time, the analog device actually receives precedence. So using these DVI to DVI Y BNC 5-Wire cables means that if the final analog device is outside the scan range of the DVI viewing device, then the DVI device will not scan correctly.

    Incidentally, I tend to always use 1024x768@75 (for 25fps) I got a few of these cables with the DVI Y BNC and they seem to work fine with my projectors and DVI monitors.

    It's a good cheap solution when I can't justify the cost of having a half dozen Image Pros in a rack with me.
    SourceChild
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    gimme 5 and then don't act surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    hi Richard,
    you may have already fixed this but,
    I've noticed on all my systems that playback performance is hugely reduced when both outputs are in full screen mode.
    I am using both apple intermediate and photo JPEG codecs.
    I have a TH2G on DVI2 and a local monitor on DVI1. Playing back one movie on a layer, outputting through the THTG, if I have screen 1 in full screen with the HUD up, playback is noticabley reduced. Taking screen 1 out of full screen corrects this.

    Regards
    Paul
    this is not my software- its not related to movies playback
    its the graphics drivers not liking some combination of screen refresh rates/sizes -when you use both outputs - its not so nice and simple...

    you say you are running a dvi monitor and a thtg - you might be running one output with dvi and the other with vga - sometimes it really doesnt like this either.
    they have different refresh rates.
    running different monitors with different screen sizes and refresh rates can cause the graphics drivers to lock out while they try to figure out which screen they should be updating next....

    you need to double check your overall screen size and refresh rates.
    for example thtg does not work at 75hz in some modes.
    and conflicts with other screen at 75Hz.

    you have to find a combination that DOES work - not one that DOESNT - it if doesnt work there isnt anything i can do about it- its not my software - its the OS.

    In the stats HUD - you need to check the exact refresh rates.

    Please post your HUD stats - showing what i show here-
    Attached Images Attached Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    hi Richard,
    you may have already fixed this but,

    Regards
    Paul
    do you have any other HUD elements on the other screens such as layers displays? etc?

    you should try to minimise these too.

    I have noticed in the past you have had large HUD screens open as well as playback.

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