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    Minimum Submix Size

    I'm running a job this weekend with a 5x4 colorweb backdrop. IE: 20 pixels wide by 16 pixels high.

    I only have Express at the moment with 4 layers and 2 mixes.

    I'm trying to scale down my output to such a low resolution. Ideally, Mix 2 would be 20x16 pixels but I can't reduce it below 100x100. If I reduce the pixel mix area, I crop the output.

    To combat this I can dedicate a layer to the colorweb and scale content there then output it to the mix at 20x16 and capture the entire image for the web. This means I've lost one of my 4 layers which I need to get my desired effects with stacking transparencies and also prepping the next content etc...

    Is there any way of shrinking the submix any more to allow lower res full mix size capture for pixelmad, or am I going to have to get some more layers?

    Cheers.
    James Cooksey
    Basic Monkey Limited
    t: 0844 870 0036 // f: 0844 870 0046 // e: enquiries3@basicmonkey.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by basicmonkey View Post
    To combat this I can dedicate a layer to the colorweb and scale content there then output it to the mix at 20x16 and capture the entire image for the web.
    Hi there , i don't understand what you want to do .

    you have a 20x16 display ? Correct ?

    and you need to scale down bigger contents to that size ? Correct ?

    if this is the scenario I don't see problems .

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    Quote Originally Posted by basicmonkey View Post
    I'm running a job this weekend with a 5x4 colorweb backdrop. IE: 20 pixels wide by 16 pixels high.

    I only have Express at the moment with 4 layers and 2 mixes.

    I'm trying to scale down my output to such a low resolution. Ideally, Mix 2 would be 20x16 pixels but I can't reduce it below 100x100. If I reduce the pixel mix area, I crop the output.

    To combat this I can dedicate a layer to the colorweb and scale content there then output it to the mix at 20x16 and capture the entire image for the web. This means I've lost one of my 4 layers which I need to get my desired effects with stacking transparencies and also prepping the next content etc...

    Is there any way of shrinking the submix any more to allow lower res full mix size capture for pixelmad, or am I going to have to get some more layers?

    Cheers.
    the mix size doesnt have to match the pixel output size.

    you just want a 20x16 output- keep the mix size at 100x100 or whatever you want- and scale the movie layer to fit.

    you dont have to have matching sizes.

    not sure i understand why you think this is important?


    at 20x16 you arent going for detail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilianomorgia View Post
    Hi there , i don't understand what you want to do .
    he needs to scale the layer?

  5. I guess if you want to use the same layer to feed a full screen and the ColorWeb, you could use keystoning in the mix window to shrink the image to the size you require, whilst at the same time using the layer in a full screen mix on output two.

    This negates the need for the mix window to be able to go smaller than 100 x 100

    Nev.

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    I'm with Nev here. I've done shows with LED walls where I've needed a small vertical resolution - say 64 pixels high or something.

    Hugh

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    Emiliano & Richard:

    I can't dedicate a layer out of my 4 just for pixelmad as I need all 4 to generate my video output and so scaling in the layers is not an option as it'd affect the video out.

    As Nev said, I'd like to use most of my main video output as the source for colorweb (minus a layer or two) and so it'd make sense to be able to simply scale a submix down to 20x16 with no cropping.

    Nev's solution with keystone scale works absolutely perfectly. Thank you!

    Sized the submix to 100x100 then scaled to 0.12 using keystone to get the size I need.

    Saved me a few quid for this weekend anyway, Cheers Nev.
    James Cooksey
    Basic Monkey Limited
    t: 0844 870 0036 // f: 0844 870 0046 // e: enquiries3@basicmonkey.net

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    keystone scale- fine.

    20x16 pixels isnt going to give you much of an image!
    but im sure it looked fabulous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basicmonkey View Post
    Nev's solution with keystone scale works absolutely perfectly. Thank you!
    Yeah very nize very nize .

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsc View Post
    keystone scale- fine.

    20x16 pixels isnt going to give you much of an image!
    but im sure it looked fabulous.
    It did indeed, I had limited space and budget so more 'web' would be unachievable, putting oils and digital aerials through it looked bob on and made a perfect backdrop for the band. I was also able to get scrolling text to be visible from far enough away.

    Cheers guys for responses.
    James Cooksey
    Basic Monkey Limited
    t: 0844 870 0036 // f: 0844 870 0046 // e: enquiries3@basicmonkey.net

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