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  1. I had a setup with triple heads on a G5. And besides a mouse I got no HUD and nothing at all when running fullscreen.

    Finaly Ruediger send me a PDF with information on triplehead stating that the G5 is not supported with triple head...

    Please find enclosed this PDF
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    Fons Hogenes
    Improve
    Rotterdamseweg 270
    2628 AT DELFT
    Netherlands
    info@improve.nl

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Improve
    I had a setup with triple heads on a G5. And besides a mouse I got no HUD and nothing at all when running fullscreen.

    Finaly Ruediger send me a PDF with information on triplehead stating that the G5 is not supported with triple head...

    Please find enclosed this PDF
    not true - as i have a show - 'Keane" tour - running on a quad g5 with both triple and dual heads. i think rob has 4 or 6 outputs. I cant remember.
    http://www.keanemusic.com/

    i also have a several g5's on other shows with these devices.
    including 'waves' at the national theatre.
    http://www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/?lid=20233

    all the information from matrox has been inaccurate.
    this pdf simply shows what matrox might have tested - not what works.

    it depends on the graphics card - and it depends on the operating system.
    there are no rules of thumb-
    these devices also sometimes work at different resolutions on different machines.

    if it works - it works - it if doesnt it doesnt.
    you have to test it.
    not every resolution is supported at every refresh rate - sometimes only 2400x800 works - sometimes only 1920x480 works.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Improve
    I had a setup with triple heads on a G5. And besides a mouse I got no HUD and nothing at all when running fullscreen.
    which g5 do you have - and what resolution did you try?

    did you make sure you set up the resolution using system preferences BEFORE running catalyst - ?
    You setup up the screen resolution BEFORE running catalyst - and you need to check you get a desktop output.

  4. We had a double 2G G5 with the ATI 9800.

    We ran from display propertys both outputs on 3072 x 768 with triple heads.. I hardly got that working from the Apple. Starting up Catalyst then en entering full screen.. No output what so ever and NO HUD's...

    I was running m92 you send me for this show...

    Ruediger tested this simultane in Germany on a G5 as well with another build and got the same result.
    Fons Hogenes
    Improve
    Rotterdamseweg 270
    2628 AT DELFT
    Netherlands
    info@improve.nl

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    RuedigerH Guest
    The machine is on the road and will return to Arcus-warehouse tomorrow.
    I will then sent/check the profile.

    I got the same issues like Fons with a G5 Dual 2GHz with ATI X800XT and OS 10.4.8.

    Ruediger

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    not sure what you talking about . I know that some time the second head give problem during start up . i had many problems with it .

    It seams that osX do not recognize it .

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by emilianomorgia
    not sure what you talking about . I know that some time the second head give problem during start up . i had many problems with it .

    It seams that osX do not recognize it .
    and what machine were you trying to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuedigerH
    The machine is on the road and will return to Arcus-warehouse tomorrow.
    I will then sent/check the profile.

    I got the same issues like Fons with a G5 Dual 2GHz with ATI X800XT and OS 10.4.8.

    Ruediger
    thats a really old g5.

    if it works it works - if it doesnt it doesnt.

    depends on the maximum resolution that the x800 will support - you have to start at lowest resolutions - try 640x480 times 2 which is 1280x480 or 1920x480.
    you must not expect these devices to work at high-resolution of 1024x768x3. or even 800x600x3

    x800 might only support up to 2048x1536 - and thats the maximum. triple head or no triple head.
    the specs and the limits are real.
    Mobility™ Radeon® X800 Series supports the latest high resolution and wide-screen notebook displays with a flexible and easy-to-use interface for multiple display settings. ATI’s new LCD Enhancement Engine (LCD-EE™) allows for support of the latest high resolution and wide-screen notebook displays such as WXGA (1920x1200) and QXGA (2048x1536).
    you are dealing with real hardware and software limits.
    Many older graphics cards only every worked - even at their maximum up to 1920x1200 - and even that was really pushing it. it really was.
    the matrox triple and dual head - pushes things well over these limits.

    you have to test every single combination you intend using.
    and if you try to work at this resolution on two screens -?

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by RuedigerH
    The machine is on the road and will return to Arcus-warehouse tomorrow.
    I will then sent/check the profile.

    I got the same issues like Fons with a G5 Dual 2GHz with ATI X800XT and OS 10.4.8.

    Ruediger
    yes and your graphics cards probably only work up to 2048x1536- if that?
    and these are very old old machines.
    you have to actually look at the specs of the machines...

    ---

    there is no mystery here -

    you are expecting these machines to do more than they are capable of....

    this isnt a bug - in either hardware or software - you guys are pushing things over the limits....

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    I have noticed with the same machine (except with a 9800) that even using The new Edge blending and widescreen overlap features that the graphics card is the bottle neck.

    I have even had one card the overheats and I need to remove the card directly above it to keep it working.

    After that experience I don't think I would even try the Matrox boxes on a machine/card that old.

    The cards were great in their day but that day has passed.

    Cheers

    Toby

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