Catalyst v4.2 m257 -

please test and report issues-

link changed to 10nov2010 - apple deleted .mac addresses ...

m257
password peru-

this has been around a while in private testing-

PRO up to 32 layers 16 mixes 12 video inputs -
DV 8 layers 8 mixes 12 video inputs-
XP 4 movies 6 submixes 12 video inputs
Lite 2 movies 4 submixes 12 video inputs

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Main changes

Layers and mix count adjustable in preferences.
Most mix parameters available over dmx- see webserver docs page- including curved mix and offsets etc-

Experimental spherical mapping for puffer fish
Support for phoenix sdi hdsdi cards.
BRC300 camera control
Some OSC protocol support.

4th July 2009.

Hello! what's mix Type Dmx chart?

thanks.

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Originally Posted by emilianomorgia

Hello! what's mix Type Dmx chart?

thanks.

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dmx docs in webserver

ALL Looks great,... Thanks

The new Sphere makes easier some options. Now is wasy to make spheres.
Do it by hand on the curved was the hard ones....

Anyway

THANKS Richard

Hi Richard,

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Originally Posted by samsc

BRC300 camera control

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Does this flow through to the EVI-D70 camera chain also? They too can be controlled by the RM-BR300 so I would guess to say that it does. Would be good to know.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by kaptivate

Hi Richard,



Does this flow through to the EVI-D70 camera chain also? They too can be controlled by the RM-BR300 so I would guess to say that it does. Would be good to know.

Cheers.

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visca commands for brc300 and evid70 are subtly different - i did test both-
there is a menu option to select these cameras-

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Originally Posted by Gian

ALL Looks great,... Thanks

The new Sphere makes easier some options. Now is wasy to make spheres.
Do it by hand on the curved was the hard ones....

Anyway

THANKS Richard

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sphere thing uses a bias curve- so you can experiment with what looks right-

can you repost or email to me?

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Originally Posted by craigglow

can you repost or email to me?

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some small issues fixed- new version is m257

Is there info on the OSC protocol somewhere that I am not seeing? Tried looking in the manuals and web server?

Also, the color of the text in the webserver is very light and just barely a couple shades off of the background.. Is this an issue or did you intend on that? - Screen shot attached.. of corse my monitor doesn't render it as good as it looks in the screen shot.

Ryan
http://homepage.mac.com/ryanwilkinson/cat.png

osc is extremely specialised - there is nothing standard about it -
so it depends on what people ask for-
i have used it with oscemote and iphone

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the text colour - looks like safari is not doing something correct with the default css style.

My 4.2v only appears to be one layer?

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Originally Posted by samsc

please test and report issues-

beta2

http://homepage.mac.com/goatee/.Public/m257.dmg

password peru-

this has been around a while in private testing-

PRO up to 32 layers 16 mixes 12 video inputs -
DV 8 layers 8 mixes 12 video inputs-
XP 4 movies 6 submixes 12 video inputs
Lite 2 movies 4 submixes 12 video inputs

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Main changes

Layers and mix count adjustable in preferences.
Most mix parameters available over dmx- see webserver docs page- including curved mix and offsets etc-

Experimental spherical mapping for puffer fish
Support for phoenix sdi hdsdi cards.
BRC300 camera control
Some OSC protocol support.

4th July 2009.

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Go to the preferences and you can change how many layers and mixes you want. Then re-launch the application.

cheers

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Originally Posted by jimi2cans

cheers

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did that work?
make sure you use m257.

beyond cat seeing OSCmote in my iphone what can you actually get cat to do with it? Can't see a way to patch the input to anything. It would be great to be able to fire off a few presets and control mix settings for a neatly made app?

Mrmr is a free iphone app that does OSC. You can create multiple pages of anything on them.. I downloaded it but haven't made any template pages yet but it would be cool to see what commands are mapped or maybe an interface in cat that would allow customization of the command structure for use with that program. Just a thought.

Hello Richard will there be a chance of implementing mixes intensity on a update soon? Also a means of controlling the screen settings would be great if this is implemented as with LED screens you need to be ontop of the gamma setup, or you incur the wrath of sparkles.

Although the full mix controls via DMX are great I tend to use presets for all of those elements as it saves so much time, compared to dialing on a desk.

Over the summer, doing so many festivals with TV companies filming, it would be great to have a means of stomping back the intensity, and maintain how all layers work together without having transparency cropping up, and still have the overall normal LED screen setting stay the same for certain key moments. Nothing worse than having far too much LED flare on a well composed image. Plus we never get a chance to line up the screens with racks engineers, on the broadcast trucks, and having the juggling act of starting in daylight and finishing the show in the dark.

Phil

Philip G Haynes
Live Visual Design and Direction

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Originally Posted by FinnRoss

beyond cat seeing OSCmote in my iphone what can you actually get cat to do with it? Can't see a way to patch the input to anything. It would be great to be able to fire off a few presets and control mix settings for a neatly made app?

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you can- OSC is such a wierd and open protocol- which leads to all sorts of ways of doing things.
everything has to be customised
there are no standards-

... so you need to ask me directly .... what you want to do-

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Originally Posted by prodigal2

Hello Richard will there be a chance of implementing mixes intensity on a update soon? Also a means of controlling the screen settings would be great if this is implemented as with LED screens you need to be ontop of the gamma setup, or you incur the wrath of sparkles.

Although the full mix controls via DMX are great I tend to use presets for all of those elements as it saves so much time, compared to dialing on a desk.

Over the summer, doing so many festivals with TV companies filming, it would be great to have a means of stomping back the intensity, and maintain how all layers work together without having transparency cropping up, and still have the overall normal LED screen setting stay the same for certain key moments. Nothing worse than having far too much LED flare on a well composed image. Plus we never get a chance to line up the screens with racks engineers, on the broadcast trucks, and having the juggling act of starting in daylight and finishing the show in the dark.

Phil

Philip G Haynes
Live Visual Design and Direction

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indeed. you arent the only one to ask
but if you 'dim' in mixes dont you come up against the other problem with LED much sooner- limited colour sampling resolution - at low intensity values?

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the transparency is something that is a problem

maybe i just thought a way around it.

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Originally Posted by samsc

indeed. you arent the only one to ask
but if you 'dim' in mixes dont you come up against the other problem with LED much sooner- limited colour sampling resolution - at low intensity values?

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the transparency is something that is a problem

maybe i just thought a way around it.

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The work around I have used is using a spare mix and layer, set the mix as uppermost and drag it to full screen repeat with the same mix on all outputs and then have black in on the layer and bring it in to act like a inhibit master. The mix needs to have transparent background.
Sadly on my current shows I am using all layers for most of the show and usually maxing out to 10 odd mixes, so this is not a option.

With changing the intensity on LED screens I find bringing down the intensity to 80-90% tends to fix the flare issue on camera, but that is more due to the fact LEDs are non linea.
Colour wise you do start loosing detail, but it is a comprimise that is worth making, in many circumstances, particularly with products like FLED, Mitrix and Spyder where you need to tweak your gamma levels to avoid sparkles, you are already making this comprimise before you reduce your intensity.

Mix intensities would also be useful for shifting the point of focus from one mix to another whilst still maintaining a built up layer look.... yep transparancies a pain, particulary in multipul layer looks.

Phil

Philip G Haynes
Live Visual Design and Direction

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Originally Posted by prodigal2

Hello Richard will there be a chance of implementing mixes intensity on a update soon? Also a means of controlling the screen settings would be great if this is implemented as with LED screens you need to be ontop of the gamma setup, or you incur the wrath of sparkles.

Although the full mix controls via DMX are great I tend to use presets for all of those elements as it saves so much time, compared to dialing on a desk.

Over the summer, doing so many festivals with TV companies filming, it would be great to have a means of stomping back the intensity, and maintain how all layers work together without having transparency cropping up, and still have the overall normal LED screen setting stay the same for certain key moments. Nothing worse than having far too much LED flare on a well composed image. Plus we never get a chance to line up the screens with racks engineers, on the broadcast trucks, and having the juggling act of starting in daylight and finishing the show in the dark.

Phil

Philip G Haynes
Live Visual Design and Direction

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Ok. Phil.

I played around with this -

there are 4 colour fx which if you apply them to a black or white layer - on top of everything else in a mix - and scale it up to fill the mix - will dim the output without affecting any transparency

1. Col fx 87 - black image - layer intensity fades in and out overall intensity
2. Col fx 87- white image - layer intensity fades in and out
3. Col fx 88 - white image - layer intensity fades in and out-
4. Col fx 92 - white image - layer intensity fades in and out

I have put 4 ways in here - in case i missed something-

try this

Cheers Richard.

I will report back when I get a chance to play with this.

Phil

Philip G Haynes
Live Visual Design and Direction

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Originally Posted by samsc

Ok. Phil.

1. Col fx 87 - black image - layer intensity fades in and out overall intensity
2. Col fx 87- white image - layer intensity fades in and out
3. Col fx 88 - white image - layer intensity fades in and out-
4. Col fx 92 - white image - layer intensity fades in and out

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I tried these. Actually a cool alternative to what I had been doing.

The simple solution has always been turning up the CMY wheels on my desk in unison until the image turns darker. I use these in combination with ColFX 2 and 3 often as a way to "lighting optimize" dark projection content while busking.

The show I'm on now however, I had to dial down the content gamma for all the LED content but found I was screwed when I started taking IMAG to the LED. I actually tried a few of these tricks on my last leg and have been able to get some pretty cool colored vignettes of the IMAG over the show content.

Hi
I've been using the beta software for bits and pieces and appears very stable, however i have an analogue thtg and it will not drive it for some reason, every time i enable a 3072 x 768 res on catalyst and ask it to go fullscreen it looses the resolution and reverts back to 1024 x 768, running 4.1 with same hardware doesn't have this problem
Mik

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Originally Posted by Mick Murray

Hi
I've been using the beta software for bits and pieces and appears very stable, however i have an analogue thtg and it will not drive it for some reason, every time i enable a 3072 x 768 res on catalyst and ask it to go fullscreen it looses the resolution and reverts back to 1024 x 768, running 4.1 with same hardware doesn't have this problem
Mik

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try reducing layers and try again.

3072x768 needs an awful lot of video ram. which video card?

these decisions dont come from catalyst - they are os resources.
which are not infinite.

Check that 'force to resolution xxx at startup' is not selected in monitor section near the top of the catalyst control window..

Simon