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RuedigerH
31-08-2006, 11:14 AM
Richard,
are there actual recommendations from your side regarding MAC PRO and SCSI-systems OR several S-ATA drives?
What is the direction your are working on?
Thank You
Ruediger
samsc
05-09-2006, 01:37 AM
In general - for more layers scsi is better.
for less layers - and maybe Hidef where data throughput is important - raid will be better.
Still collecting data on which SATA drives to test.
some tests here:
http://www.barefeats.com/quad08.htm
thomasrotten
14-09-2006, 10:25 PM
Hi there.. I can strongly recommand the firmtek 4 drive s-ata bay... With the new model you can put in the new s-ata II disk in. They have the new 3Gb/s interface and if you stripp the 4 drives togeather it is no problem to run 10 layers of video. www.firmtek.com (http://firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-2eEN4/)
samsc
14-09-2006, 10:42 PM
did you test this yourself?
you rely on firmtek benchmarks - for this information?
tharding
14-09-2006, 11:55 PM
Hi there.. I can strongly recommand the firmtek 4 drive s-ata bay... With the new model you can put in the new s-ata II disk in. They have the new 3Gb/s interface and if you stripp the 4 drives togeather it is no problem to run 10 layers of video. www.firmtek.com (http://firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-2eEN4/)
I run the earlier version of the Firmtek Dual Drive Bay which is SATA 1. When I create 4 drive RAID using WD 74g Raptors I can at best run 4 to 6 layers of DV.
However I also have an Xserve RAID. The major difference is that the caching of the Xserve gives me smooth playback without a dropped frame of at least 5 layers if not 6. I find the SATA RAIDs will drop the occasional frame even though the HUD is telling me I am running at 25 fps on all layers. This can occur even if I am only running one layer. You can even hear the drives make a slight noise when they lose there place.
With SATA II the disk speed hasn't changed just the bandwidth. Without a major increase in disk speed and particularly caching I can't see how ten layers is possible without dropping frames. There is such a big difference between playing back multiple layers in a video editing program such as Final Cut which uses caching and render files versus Catalyst.
Having said all that I would be more than happy to be proved wrong but I find the Xserve has given the best performance so far of the solutions I have tried.
Cheers
Toby:)
samsc
15-09-2006, 12:10 AM
i agree with toby -
but someone sometime might come up with an amazing caching algorithm that makes it work better.
thomasrotten
15-09-2006, 06:44 PM
No the benchmark tests is done with the blackmagic speed test and with 4 maxtor S-ATA II 300 GB disk stripped to raid 0 i get a preformance of 275 MB/s.....
best regards
thomas
samsc
15-09-2006, 08:40 PM
No the benchmark tests is done with the blackmagic speed test and with 4 maxtor S-ATA II 300 GB disk stripped to raid 0 i get a preformance of 275 MB/s.....
best regards
thomas
for catalyst headline data rate is not important - unless you are doing uncompressed hi-def.
what is more important is the seek speed of the hard disc.
raids have longer seek times than single scsi drives.
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