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awouters
05-03-2005, 06:13 PM
Hello Ricard

How can i play a sound file 44.1 stereo on a digidesign mbox i can see in the audio play back my mbox outputs ch1 ch2 but i can't select them the are gray????

samsc
05-03-2005, 06:26 PM
Hello Ricard

How can i play a sound file 44.1 stereo on a digidesign mbox i can see in the audio play back my mbox outputs ch1 ch2 but i can't select them the are gray????

Hello.

Can you send me some information from the console log.
Open the 'console' application - its an apple program, and copy the information i output when samsc opens.
It gives me a very detailed description of what the mBox is.

The problem is that each and every rotten audio interface does something slightly different, and that i actually need to test quite a few to find out what the differences are.
This information will help me.

You are looking for something like:

CA Out --- device count = 1
CA Out---******** Device = 1 Apple Built-in Audio 'bltn'
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 4096, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 1
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 2 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 1 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 10 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 3 formats

samsc
10-03-2005, 01:24 AM
did you manage to get me any information?

the mbox seems very expensive- thought about buying one to test.

Pipo
10-03-2005, 06:49 AM
Richard,

On friday, next week, I will be working with an mBox, so I will be able to send you the info if you want.
Philippe

samsc
10-03-2005, 07:34 AM
yes please. digidesign does something different with their audio channel assignments.
they didnt use interleaved audio on the digi002 i borrowed.

i dont know the channel layouts.

Pipo
22-03-2005, 10:20 AM
Richard:

Ok, here is the console log I got opening SAMSC with the Mbox attached:


************************************************** ************************************************** *****
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------SAMSC 5.0 OSX_d22 Mar 14 2005 Free:20971520
<CFData 0x4226e0 [0xa01900e0]>{length = 6, capacity = 6, bytes = 0x000d932c96ee}
## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
<CFData 0x436fb0 [0xa01900e0]>{length = 6, capacity = 6, bytes = 0x000d932c96ee}
CM -- Device 0 Apple, IAC Driver, IAC Driver, unique id 1809559139
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 IAC Bus 1 -882443953
CM - source 0 IAC Bus 1 -1819548799
CM -- Device 1 M-Audio, 1x1, USB MIDI, unique id 1510336981
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 Port 1 823367908
CM - source 0 Port 1 674414195
CM -- Device 2 M-Audio, 1x1, USB MIDI, unique id 11351781
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 Port 1 1158243405
CM - source 0 Port 1 -828710518
CM -- Device 3 M-Audio, 1x1, USB MIDI, unique id -880418867
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 Port 1 -408383998
CM - source 0 Port 1 1515197095
CM -- Device 4 Digidesign, , , unique id 349362245
CM -- Entity count 0
VIDOUT -- FireWire type - 'vout' subtype - 'fire' flags 0 mask 10254
VIDOUT -- opening firewire output 0
VIDOUT -- DVCPRO HD type - 'vout' subtype - 'DVHD' flags 0 mask 10043
VIDOUT -- Error opening blackmagic output -1
CA Out --- device count = 4
CA Out---******** Device = 1 Apple iSight '1394'
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 3072, nominal Sample Rate 48000
CA Out------- number buffers = 0
CA Out-------- total channel count = 0
CA Out---******** Device = 2 Apple Built-in Audio 'bltn'
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 4096, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 1
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 2 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 1 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 10 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 6 formats
CA Out------- format 0 - rate = 32000 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 1 - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 2 - rate = 48000 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 3 - rate = 32000 - ID = cac3 - flags = 0000001E - bytes/pkt = 6144 - fr/pkt = 1536 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 0 - bits/ch = 16
CA Out------- format 4 - rate = 44100 - ID = cac3 - flags = 0000001E - bytes/pkt = 6144 - fr/pkt = 1536 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 0 - bits/ch = 16
CA Out------- format 5 - rate = 48000 - ID = cac3 - flags = 0000001E - bytes/pkt = 6144 - fr/pkt = 1536 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 0 - bits/ch = 16
CA Out---******** Device = 3 harman/kardon SoundSticks 'usb '
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 4096, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 1
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 2 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 1 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 12 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 2 formats
CA Out------- format 0 - rate = 0 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 1 - rate = 0 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out---******** Device = 4 Digidesign Digidesign HW ( MBox ) 'othr'
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 2048, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 2
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 1 channels
CA Out----- buffer 2 has 1 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 2 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 14 - Start Channel 0
CA Out--------- streamID 1 - 13 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 2 formats
CA Out------- format 0 - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 1 - rate = 48000 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA -- OutputStreams 0 - ID 10 channels 2 - Built-in Audio Apple
CA -- OutputStreams 1 - ID 12 channels 2 - SoundSticks harman/kardon
CA -- OutputStreams 2 - ID 14 channels 1 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign
CA -- OutputStreams 3 - ID 13 channels 1 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign
CA -- 4 OutputStreams
CA -- ID 10 MyOutput 0 - channels 2 offset 0 - Built-in Audio Apple
CA -- ID 12 MyOutput 1 - channels 2 offset 0 - SoundSticks harman/kardon
CA -- ID 14 MyOutput xxxxxxx 2 - mono not compatible - channels 1 offset 0 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign
CA -- ID 13 MyOutput xxxxxxx 3 - mono not compatible - channels 1 offset 0 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign

CA Out --- total audio outputs = 4
CA -- MyOutput 0 ( compatible ) - channels 2 name Stream 0 Ch 1~2 Built-in Audio Apple output( 2 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 0, streamDevIndex 0, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA -- MyOutput 1 ( compatible ) - channels 2 name Stream 1 Ch 1~2 SoundSticks harman/kardon output( 2 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 1, streamDevIndex 0, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA -- MyOutput 2 ( Not Compatible ) - channels 1 name Ch 2 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign output( 1 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 0, streamDevIndex 0, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA -- MyOutput 3 ( Not Compatible ) - channels 1 name Ch 3 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign output( 1 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 0, streamDevIndex 1, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA IOProc -- Device 1 Error = 0
CA Device Start -- Device 1 Error = 0
CA IOProc -- Device 2 Error = 0
CA Device Start -- Device 2 Error = 0

I'll have the Mbox for a few more days, so if you need something else just tell me. I´m also sending an attachment that shows the multichannel Out with the digidesign mbox grayed.
Regards
Philippe

samsc
22-03-2005, 10:54 AM
thanks.

Thats a lot of help.

digidesign seems to configure their devices as single channel devices, rather than stereo pairs.

As i play stereo pairs at the moment. i have to write more code to support this........

Pipo
24-03-2005, 10:14 AM
Richard,

I've just installed the last Digidesign CoreAudio driver version 6.7 (previous one previous was 6.5.2) I don't know if this will make some difference, so I'm uploading a new log with 6.7 installed.


************************************************** ************************************************** *****
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------SAMSC 5.0 OSX_d22 Mar 14 2005 Free:20971520
<CFData 0x4226c0 [0xa01900e0]>{length = 6, capacity = 6, bytes = 0x000d932c96ee}
## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
<CFData 0x436fb0 [0xa01900e0]>{length = 6, capacity = 6, bytes = 0x000d932c96ee}
CM -- Device 0 Apple, IAC Driver, IAC Driver, unique id 1809559139
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 IAC Bus 1 -882443953
CM - source 0 IAC Bus 1 -1819548799
CM -- Device 1 M-Audio, 1x1, USB MIDI, unique id 1510336981
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 Port 1 823367908
CM - source 0 Port 1 674414195
CM -- Device 2 M-Audio, 1x1, USB MIDI, unique id 11351781
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 Port 1 1158243405
CM - source 0 Port 1 -828710518
CM -- Device 3 M-Audio, 1x1, USB MIDI, unique id -880418867
CM -- Entity count 1
CM - dest 0 Port 1 -408383998
CM - source 0 Port 1 1515197095
CM -- Device 4 Digidesign, , , unique id 349362245
CM -- Entity count 0
VIDOUT -- FireWire type - 'vout' subtype - 'fire' flags 0 mask 10254
VIDOUT -- opening firewire output 0
VIDOUT -- DVCPRO HD type - 'vout' subtype - 'DVHD' flags 0 mask 10043
VIDOUT -- Error opening blackmagic output -1
CA Out --- device count = 4
CA Out---******** Device = 1 Apple iSight '1394'
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 3072, nominal Sample Rate 48000
CA Out------- number buffers = 0
CA Out-------- total channel count = 0
CA Out---******** Device = 2 Apple Built-in Audio 'bltn'
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 4096, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 1
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 2 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 1 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 10 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 6 formats
CA Out------- format 0 - rate = 32000 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 1 - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 2 - rate = 48000 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 3 - rate = 32000 - ID = cac3 - flags = 0000001E - bytes/pkt = 6144 - fr/pkt = 1536 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 0 - bits/ch = 16
CA Out------- format 4 - rate = 44100 - ID = cac3 - flags = 0000001E - bytes/pkt = 6144 - fr/pkt = 1536 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 0 - bits/ch = 16
CA Out------- format 5 - rate = 48000 - ID = cac3 - flags = 0000001E - bytes/pkt = 6144 - fr/pkt = 1536 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 0 - bits/ch = 16
CA Out---******** Device = 3 harman/kardon SoundSticks 'usb '
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 4096, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 1
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 2 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 1 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 12 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 2 formats
CA Out------- format 0 - rate = 0 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 1 - rate = 0 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 8 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 2 - byte/fr = 8 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out---******** Device = 4 Digidesign Digidesign HW ( MBox ) 'othr'
CA Out------- Device format - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out--- deviceBufferSize = 4096, nominal Sample Rate 44100
CA Out------- number buffers = 2
CA Out----- buffer 1 has 1 channels
CA Out----- buffer 2 has 1 channels
CA Out-------- total channel count = 2
CA Out----- device has 2 streamIDs
CA Out--------- streamID 0 - 14 - Start Channel 0
CA Out--------- streamID 1 - 13 - Start Channel 0
CA Out----- device stream supports 2 formats
CA Out------- format 0 - rate = 44100 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA Out------- format 1 - rate = 48000 - ID = lpcm - flags = 0000000B - bytes/pkt = 4 - fr/pkt = 1 - ch/fr = 1 - byte/fr = 4 - bits/ch = 32
CA -- OutputStreams 0 - ID 10 channels 2 - Built-in Audio Apple
CA -- OutputStreams 1 - ID 12 channels 2 - SoundSticks harman/kardon
CA -- OutputStreams 2 - ID 14 channels 1 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign
CA -- OutputStreams 3 - ID 13 channels 1 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign
CA -- 4 OutputStreams
CA -- ID 10 MyOutput 0 - channels 2 offset 0 - Built-in Audio Apple
CA -- ID 12 MyOutput 1 - channels 2 offset 0 - SoundSticks harman/kardon
CA -- ID 14 MyOutput xxxxxxx 2 - mono not compatible - channels 1 offset 0 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign
CA -- ID 13 MyOutput xxxxxxx 3 - mono not compatible - channels 1 offset 0 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign

CA Out --- total audio outputs = 4
CA -- MyOutput 0 ( compatible ) - channels 2 name Stream 0 Ch 1~2 Built-in Audio Apple output( 2 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 0, streamDevIndex 0, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA -- MyOutput 1 ( compatible ) - channels 2 name Stream 1 Ch 1~2 SoundSticks harman/kardon output( 2 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 1, streamDevIndex 0, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA -- MyOutput 2 ( Not Compatible ) - channels 1 name Ch 2 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign output( 1 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 0, streamDevIndex 0, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA -- MyOutput 3 ( Not Compatible ) - channels 1 name Ch 3 - Digidesign HW ( MBox ) Digidesign output( 1 channels, offset 0, streamIndex 0, streamDevIndex 1, deviceBufferStreamIndex 0
CA IOProc -- Device 1 Error = 0
CA Device Start -- Device 1 Error = 0
CA IOProc -- Device 2 Error = 0
CA Device Start -- Device 2 Error = 0
Philippe

samsc
24-03-2005, 02:00 PM
its the same.

they split the stereo output into two single channels - as far as the device driver is concerned - when i get time - ill see if i can make this work.

samsc
24-03-2005, 02:01 PM
Your harman sound sticks work?

it looks like they should?

Pipo
25-03-2005, 09:36 AM
Yes the Harman soundsticks work perfectly with SAMSC.
Philippe

samsc
25-03-2005, 09:57 AM
no glitching?

Pipo
31-03-2005, 12:47 AM
I've just made some tests to be sure, and yes I can confirm that they are working very well.

Philippe