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flang
26-05-2014, 10:39 AM
Hi is it possible to make Thumbnail Exchance?
lg Fred

wodie
27-05-2014, 12:26 PM
As far as I know there are no plans for CITP for Catalyst. CITP is a big pain. There is a WebServer on Catalyst that can handle thumbnails. At the moment I am working on a program that can communicate with Catalyst WebServer, request for the thumbnails and have them available for CITP. I expect to have it ready in a week. It will be released for free to anyone that request for it.

Mr_P
27-05-2014, 11:21 PM
yes - be interested to see it...

But many desk manufacturers have just implemented the ability to connect to the web-server and use the thumbnails instead of CITP...

S

wodie
28-05-2014, 03:50 AM
The WebServer is extremely easy to implement compared to CITP. I took me one day to make the full code implementation to retrive and process the library file and get all the thumbnails. CITP took me like one week, there are too many messages to get a single thumbnail.

PascalVittoz
28-05-2014, 08:19 AM
hi Simon,
what are the lighting desk that implement web server ?
I just know Chamsys actually.
Thanks.

Mr_P
28-05-2014, 11:25 AM
Hog4 range supports CITP but also looks at the Catalyst web server for still thumbnails.

S

Spam Butterfly
01-06-2014, 04:23 PM
Chamsys and Compulite desks both support the web server and have done for ages. It is a far more pragmatic way of doing this sort of thing than CITP.


Hugh

flang
02-06-2014, 03:21 PM
i work with Grand MA2

Mr_P
02-06-2014, 03:45 PM
persuade MA to use webserver approach rather than CITP for catalyst...

S

wodie
03-06-2014, 05:12 AM
Good News: I have the first beta for Cat CITP, a program that can retrieve thumbnails from Catalyst WebServer and send them via CITP.
Bad News: for some Mac fans, it runs on Windows (I know, I know). But it is where I know how to program.
Message me for a link for download.

5th Element
14-06-2014, 03:27 PM
I would really like to see CITP become a feature as well. I keep hearing about how it's a pain on this forum, but I have not had this experience. I think it seems to work pretty well. Are people suggesting it is a pain to implement or to use?
If it's just a pain to use, then I think a simple thing would just be to add in an on/off switch for it. Then you can use it if you want to or just leave it off.

The thing that really has me excited about it again is seeing the new implementation on GrandMA 3d. I deal almost exclusively with MA, and I know a lot of cat users are typically Hog for some reason, but that is OK, I don't hold it against them.
Using CTIP with MA 3d, now you can visualize your content with your lighting rig on the same program in semi *real time* on a free program. It is very very cool. You can do all the cool camera moves, etc.. and the fact I can do it with my POS arkaos system and not my nice catalyst rig is a huge bummer.
I have been getting emails and calls about this since MA version 3 came out asking if we can do this on some shows coming up and I don't know what to tell them? Rent an Mbox?
+10 for adding this into catalyst.

wodie
14-06-2014, 04:18 PM
I agree, and please do not misunderstood my point. It would be nice to add CITP to Catalyst and set an ON/OFF switch, but what about MA to implement an ON/OFF switch for web server? It wold be really easy. As a coder, Web Server takes about 50 lines of code. CITP took me about 1000 lines of code. Network traffic decrease about 25% and that is heavy for big rigs.

5th Element
14-06-2014, 04:48 PM
oh for sure, I wouldn't necessarily even run it on a large show, but I would definitely like to use it for pre-program situations.
You can import images into MA in bulk now, so theoretically you could put all the images from the catalyst thumbnail folder in the image folder, import them and write some crazy macro to assign it to gobo presets.... I was working on this for the last version 2.9.1.1, but there wasn't command line for assigning images to presets. I still don't think there is.

There is a web server folder in the onPC version of GrandMA2, It appeared also in 2.9 I think but it basically didn't do anything. I now see more functions in there and they are taking suggestions. I am not a programmer at all, so I wouldn't even know what to tell them.

Maybe worth taking a look, also, I would love to try out your program for catalyst if it's possible.

wodie
14-06-2014, 11:36 PM
For those that would like to try the new CITP feature on MA2 v3 like MSEX-StFr I found this on the web. I am just downloading MA to try it. It can complement the program I made to get thumbnails. I hope Users help to persuade MA to implement WebServer, it is simpler and faster.

MattMills
17-06-2014, 12:26 AM
Hey everyone, I recently purchased a MBox dongle to check it out. Not a bad system. It talks very well with my MA2 Command Wing and my MA3D system using the CITP feature??..

mlorenz
18-06-2014, 09:09 AM
I guess CITP will never make it....
Have a look at the other postings and the comments Richard made.

samsc
04-09-2014, 11:52 AM
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/citp-tool/id911784333?mt=12

try this?

5th Element
17-10-2014, 05:13 PM
Just wanted to say I have been working with this and it works great! I was using m466 and Mavericks 10.9.5
Thumbnail exchange was solid even for a full HD of 480 GB of clips.
MSEX quality was better than I have seen in other applications and looked really nice in MA3D. I would highly recommend this to anyone who wants this functionality. Also seemed really low on resource use, like 0.5% CPU.
Nice tutorials for setup too.

Thanks Thomas,