How about this one for VGA input?

[ping141]

http://www.epiphan.com/products/product.php?pid=66&PHPSESSID=chucn4t3q1mi1r2a0la4nb1fl4

As a way of getting those evercoming PowerPoint presentations into the system...

What do you think?

[samsc]

http://www.epiphan.com/products/product.php?pid=66&PHPSESSID=chucn4t3q1mi1r2a0la4nb1fl4

As a way of getting those evercoming PowerPoint presentations into the system...

What do you think?

gian in brazil used one - reported bugs in drivers - i think.

i dont have one.

try emailing him - member Gian.

[Marty Postma]

I have also found that USB capture devices (like the one mentioned above) do not work nearly as well as FireWire ones with Catalyst.

Also boxes like the one from Canopus can go as high as 1600x1200 resolution.

http://www.canopus.com/products/TwinPact100/TwinPact100.php

BTW
Richard - how did your tests go with the Canopus Twin-Pact box?

[SourceChild]

The solutions I have for this are to use an HD SDI capture card from decklink. I then also have a DVI to HD-SDI converter so that I can take the DVI out from my computer and feed it into my Catalyst. The HD-SDI card is about $1200 USD and the DVI to HD-SDI converter is about $1200 also.

This is not the cheapest solution but better than USB or firewire and certainly cheaper than using an ImagePro.

Richard has been working on a new multi-input capture card prototype from Active Silicon. There is a thread started about it already. I would say that before buying the decklink, lets see how this new Active Silicon card works because it will have significantly less latency than the decklink card.

[ping141]

Is there a specific DVI -> HDSDI box you´d recommend?

[Gian]

I do have several of VGA / DVI capture ones,....

Matrox MXO, only works for MACs
Canopus

Most of them converts the signal to VIDEO, even to HD Video, still Video....
and is not good enouth for PPT presentations or so, only for big logos or caracteres.

Epiphan is the best quality so far, specialy because is what they call Frame Grabber... But yes the Drivers have some conflict with Catalyst. He only works if catalyst has the Input from Epiphan,... if not catalyst crashes.
So we are on a painfull job to unistall the driver when we use Catalyst without the Epiphan, and install the driver when we use the Epiphan, and open Cat only when we know for shure the Signal is coming in.

But is great quality, specially if you compare with other products.

[samsc]

what kindof frame rate do you get?

Did you use the 'compressed' mode?

[samsc]

Is there a specific DVI -> HDSDI box you´d recommend?

that is a big subject - and depends on cash you want to spend.

[ping141]

I´ll consider spending the amount of cash that is needed. Point is that without a VGA input, there is a constant need of renting an Eventix for every other job...

[Gian]

I use on the Epiphan without the compression mode. With 800 x 600, I got like 23/24 frames, in 1024 x 768, drops to abou 16/17 fps, what for most of PPT presentations, goes pretty well. I am looking to buy a new Epiphan card, with the compression mode 30fps on any resolution. The box I have has not that option, just uncompressed, nut can capture either DVI or VGA.
Gian

[samsc]

i just ordered the new dvi2usb from epiphan. we will see how well it works.

http://www.epiphan.com/products/product.php?catid=1#DVI2USB


DVI2USB Solo is Epiphan's most compact DVI capture device. At a capture rate of 30 frames per second, DVI2USB Solo can capture resolutions of up to 1920x1200 from single-link DVI signals.
If you need to capture images from a single-link DVI source and maintain diagnostic-quality lossless images, then DVI2USB Solo is what you have been looking for. DVI2USB Solo is able to achieve frame rates of 30 frames per second at DVI resolutions up to 1920x1200 without any loss in picture quality.

DVI2USB Solo allows you to:

Capture images from any single-link DVI source.
Capture videos from the DVI source and save them as AVI files.
Print or record the captured image with the touch of a button using Epiphan's VGA Printer or VGA Recorder pro

http://www.epiphan.com/images/products/DVI2USB-SOLO-small.png

[ping141]

All right! Let me know how it´s doing. This is the one I was thinking about also...

[samsc]

All right! Let me know how it´s doing. This is the one I was thinking about also...

one can never tell until test. even then its not always possible to test on enough systems.

end user must always test third party hardware themselves.

[Raggi di Luce]

I have also found that USB capture devices (like the one mentioned above) do not work nearly as well as FireWire ones with Catalyst.

Also boxes like the one from Canopus can go as high as 1600x1200 resolution.

http://www.canopus.com/products/TwinPact100/TwinPact100.php

Just bought it from Apple Store 599 euro.
It's a magic box: RGB to DV, Analog to DV, DV to Analog and so on.
Tested up to 1600x1200 with a Flash animation. Good with videos.
But image comes more clear and sharp only up to 1280. Best is 1024 60Hz (to read small fonts, like PP presentations or similar.)
It has 2 points:
- cheap
- it's firewire in, so, using DV-Input, Decklink remains free for a camera or so on.

Stefano
Raggi di Luce srl

[samsc]

I use on the Epiphan without the compression mode. With 800 x 600, I got like 23/24 frames, in 1024 x 768, drops to abou 16/17 fps, what for most of PPT presentations, goes pretty well. I am looking to buy a new Epiphan card, with the compression mode 30fps on any resolution. The box I have has not that option, just uncompressed, nut can capture either DVI or VGA.
Gian

got dvi2usb - but they dont have correct drivers to download from website. link is only for vga2usb and only downloads that software....

[samsc]

Just bought it from Apple Store 599 euro.
It's a magic box: RGB to DV, Analog to DV, DV to Analog and so on.
Tested up to 1600x1200 with a Flash animation. Good with videos.
But image comes more clear and sharp only up to 1280. Best is 1024 60Hz (to read small fonts, like PP presentations or similar.)
It has 2 points:
- cheap
- it's firewire in, so, using DV-Input, Decklink remains free for a camera or so on.

Stefano
Raggi di Luce srl

mary postma seemed to think this worked well.
think they have written a custom dv codec to improve image quality